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P-47M "Lorene" Color Details
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Posted: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 05:35 PM UTC
Hi All,

My first post here. I'm in the process of building the Tamiya kit for a local IPMS contest. This is my first serious attempt in close to 20 years. I'll be using the kit decals for HV J.

Anyway, I have a few questions that I could use some help with and this looks like the place to get the answers. I have been researching them and have come up with conflicting information.

1. What color was the interior of the cowling? The instructions call for Yellow ZC but I have read that they were NMF or silver.

2. Was the are intake in the cowl grey or red on this specific aircraft?

3. Were the wheel wells Yellow or Green ZC, Ref's say Yellow but I have seen plenty of models with Green.

4. Were the gear door interiors painted or NMF? In some pictures the outside/strut doors appear NMF to me. I don't have a good shot of the inside door.

5 Was the firewall really flat black as the instruction call for or NMF? I read somewhere that they were left NMF late in the war.

Any help is appreciated.

Finally, just for the sake of curiosity is this really an "M" or is it a "D"?


-Jim
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Posted: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 07:54 PM UTC
Hi James.
Welcome to the site

The nose art decal from the Tamiya kit isn't brilliant as far as acuracy goes. The closest of the two to the actual colours is the one with the brown coloured dress.
I'll answer your questions in bold below.


Quoted Text

Hi All,

My first post here. I'm in the process of building the Tamiya kit for a local IPMS contest. This is my first serious attempt in close to 20 years. I'll be using the kit decals for HV J.

Anyway, I have a few questions that I could use some help with and this looks like the place to get the answers. I have been researching them and have come up with conflicting information.

1. What color was the interior of the cowling? The instructions call for Yellow ZC but I have read that they were NMF or silver.
Cowling panel interiors were left unpainted

2. Was the are intake in the cowl grey or red on this specific aircraft?
To the best of my knowledge it was grey.

3. Were the wheel wells Yellow or Green ZC, Ref's say Yellow but I have seen plenty of models with Green.
Wheel wells were the yellow zinc cromate colour

4. Were the gear door interiors painted or NMF? In some pictures the outside/strut doors appear NMF to me. I don't have a good shot of the inside door.
Painted,,yellow zinc cromate
5 Was the firewall really flat black as the instruction call for or NMF? I read somewhere that they were left NMF late in the war.
Firewalls were natural metal. What you see on the Tamiya kit isn't the firewall. This was further back down the fusalage behind the engine accesory section
Any help is appreciated.

Finally, just for the sake of curiosity is this really an "M" or is it a "D"?
Its Russ Kylers HV-J and its an M model. Initially, HV-J wasn't fitted with the fusalage fin fillet and the black/nmf demarcation line under the tail followed the earlier line seen on OD/NG aircraft. This was changed later to extend to the end of the fusalage


-Jim



I built the same kit last year.

You can find more photos HERE

You have certainly found the right place to discuss this aircraft as the gentleman who flew it is a regular vistor to this site!

Hope this answers your questions.
Nige
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Posted: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 - 01:24 AM UTC
Thank You Nige!

I have actually been prowling around here for a few weeks doing research. I was sure you or someone else could set me straight on these. I was aware of the noseart issue from one of your posts. Also, this site is the one that put to rest the question regarding the top side color for me. Isn't it amazing that the manufacturers still make errors when they could have just contacted the pilot and found out the truth?

I saw your build too. Excellent job! Hopefully mine turns out just as well. Maybe I'll start a build log.

Thanks Again!
-Jim
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Posted: Monday, March 29, 2010 - 09:02 AM UTC
Hi,

Another question.

What color is the interior of the canopy frame?

Thanks!
-Jim
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Posted: Monday, March 29, 2010 - 10:36 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Hi,

Another question.

What color is the interior of the canopy frame?

Thanks!
-Jim



To the best of my knowledge the interior frames were black.

Nige
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Posted: Sunday, May 08, 2011 - 04:23 AM UTC
Hey how are you? Thats my Grandpa's plane so I can ask him if you would like.

--Jason