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P-47 SIG Group Build 2012 Bolt from the Blue
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Posted: Saturday, June 09, 2012 - 09:52 PM GMT
Fred,

Looks like those goodies will keep you busy for a few weeks. Looking forward to seeing your progress shots.

Cheers

Simon
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Posted: Monday, June 11, 2012 - 09:02 AM GMT
Wow, Frederik. That is a lot of plastic and resin goodies.

Looking forward to see how that ARII Thunderbolt goes together.
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Posted: Monday, June 11, 2012 - 09:14 AM GMT
Thanks Simon. I'll aim to please,

This weekend I started cutting sprue/fret and throwing paint. Juggling three campaigns now I figured I'd get a jump on this while I'm waiting for S/O parts for other builds. Gonna lead off with the Arii kit. For those not familiar with this kit. It is easily overlooked amid all the conversations about Tamiya, Hasegawa, and Academy Bolts, however, there is more to recommend it than one would think at first glance.

On the plus side: Its cheap (picked one up on the net new in the wrapper for $10). The plastic is surprisingly easy to work with and the surface detail is subtle with nicely engraved panel lines. The fit is shockingly good. and the transparencies not only fit well but are pleasingly clear. The construction runs very similar to the old Monogram kit (but without the raised panel lines)

OK, so what's not to like? Well, there are some sink holes in visible places. (but nothing a little Mr. Surfacer can't solve). It is positively light on any details, and the decal sheet is all but useless.
That said, for $10 there is a lot of modeling potential.

So, this is going to be a relatively quick build to whet my appetite for the Hasegawa D-25 a bit later. Since the kit is so spartan and because there are AFAIK no aftermarket bits for Otaki/Arii kits a combination of scratch build and modification of other aftermarket items is required.

I started by modifying a TD resin cockpit set to fit my Jug. This required minor trimming/shimming and lowering the floor 2mm to have the side panels line up correctly. Adding some Eduard PE bits gives extra pop to the tub. I'll post some progress pics tonight.

Cheers,
Fred
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Posted: Monday, June 11, 2012 - 04:10 PM GMT


Midpoint in the cockpit stage. The stock office suite looks pretty bland. Still have details to add and need to build the gun sight.

Cheers,
Fred
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Posted: Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 06:41 AM GMT
Thanks for the insights on the Arii kit, Frederik.

However, I do not know what you mean by the kit cockpit being bland. I can see at least 4 plastic blobs on one of the side walls
On a serious note your replacement cockpit looks great.
KrisMax
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Posted: Saturday, June 16, 2012 - 12:43 AM GMT
No photo update from me as my entry looks much the same as in the last post. Still tidying up here and there to get it ready for the airbrush.
I will be trying to replicate the well known 'Rabbit' scheme shown below. But.....there's one aspect of the markings for which I have contradictory info and any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Should the tail and tail planes be red and white stripes or red stripes on NMF? I'm thinking red and white but the decal sheet says not.






Simon
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Posted: Saturday, June 16, 2012 - 08:42 AM GMT
Hi Simon,
Officially the 86th tail colours were red/white bands. However, its very common to see examples where the red bands, with varying neatness,were painted directly over the NMF, as time available to paint the aircraft was limited due to keeping aircraft servicable for operations naturally taking priority.
In the absence of a photo of Rabbit, the choice is yours. Later in the war, as operational intensity slowed, aircraft show the white background to red stripes.
In some cases, aircraft were photographed with white empennages while awaiting the red stripes being painted on.
Check out Steve Luce's excellent "86th Fighter Group in WW2".
Hope this helps,

Nige
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Posted: Saturday, June 16, 2012 - 09:58 PM GMT

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Hope this helps,

Nige



It sure does. I can now proceed with my choice knowing that I am not commiting a historical faux pas.

Thanks Nige.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 - 01:26 PM GMT
Cool choice, Simon. That striped tail will really be eye catching.

Looking forward to see more
KrisMax
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Posted: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 - 10:43 PM GMT
Thanks Jesper, I'm having fun masking those stripes right now.
What's the latest news on the 'Snorting Bull?'
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Posted: Sunday, July 01, 2012 - 11:38 AM GMT
I have not started yet and I am changing my mind on my P-47 build markings constantly as I read about pilots, units, buy more cheap decal sets. I will probably not make the final decision until I have to start painting.
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Posted: Sunday, July 08, 2012 - 12:10 AM GMT
Hi all, I'm really sorry for being absent for so long. Lot's going on in real life with work and family, but all good I'm happy to say.

Anyway, on to the important stuff, I finally got a few minutes at the bench and plugged in the airbrush, so "Hun Hunter XIV" got its first little bit of colour !



On the downside, I can't find the headrest part, so I need to scratch one up our of cardstock. The Interior Green will have to wait until I get that done.

I hope everybody is enjoying their builds, and maybe soon we will see some progress shots.

Cheers, D
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Posted: Sunday, July 08, 2012 - 02:43 PM GMT
Looks cool, Damian. Nice to see you are making progress.

I have still to start, but looking forward to make up another Jug.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 - 12:45 AM GMT
I stumbled across a stunning photo tonight . . . .



Found it amongst some other great pics . Notice the "slots" in the wing leading edge around the blast tubes. Is that a pile of small cover plates I spy to the right of the blast tubes?

It's another angle of the great photo with the Cletrac.

Carry on, D
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Posted: Thursday, July 19, 2012 - 12:25 AM GMT
Wow, that is a great picture (all the better for being in color!)
Sounds like a great opportunity to post progress shot of my D-20. Spent some time over the past week polishing seams and touching up panel lines. I'm now ready to lay down first full coat of primer.

Steady as she goes...

Cheers,
Fred
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Posted: Thursday, July 19, 2012 - 08:40 AM GMT
I'll try and get moving on my build..honest, but I haven't had a spare minute to do ANYTHING recently.
All builds at the moment are static.
I would just love to have a whole day at the bench,,even an hour would be nice


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Notice the "slots" in the wing leading edge around the blast tubes. Is that a pile of small cover plates I spy to the right of the blast tubes?



Thats part of the ammo feed


Nige
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Posted: Thursday, July 19, 2012 - 10:04 AM GMT

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Thats part of the ammo feed



Thanks Nige. Is there a one-piece cover that fits over the blast tubes then, to fit that pale yellowish area ?

Once you've answered, get ye immediately to the bench for at least 5 minutes.

THAT"S AN ORDER !!!

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Posted: Saturday, July 21, 2012 - 05:17 AM GMT

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Thanks Nige. Is there a one-piece cover that fits over the blast tubes then, to fit that pale yellowish area ?

Once you've answered, get ye immediately to the bench for at least 5 minutes.

THAT"S AN ORDER !!!



Hi D,
Yep theres a cover.

#17 in this image.


Part # 89C22518 "Cover assembly-gun troughs"

Guess what?...............

Going to the bench!!!!!!! YEAH!!!


Nige
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Posted: Friday, August 17, 2012 - 12:25 AM GMT
I have now finally started on my build and decided on the decals. After going through a lot of decal options I went with the most colorful I could find
Work has already moved on since the picture was taken, so more to follow soon.

One question for the experts: I have seen pictures of Jugs with both centerline fuel tank, bazooka tubes, and 500 lbs bombs on each wing. Is this just a "PR" load for showing of on the ground or did the Jugs actually fly with such a large load? If they did I will give my Jug a full load of ordnance.



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Posted: Friday, August 17, 2012 - 07:48 AM GMT

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I have seen pictures of Jugs with both centerline fuel tank, bazooka tubes, and 500 lbs bombs on each wing. Is this just a "PR" load for showing of on the ground or did the Jugs actually fly with such a large load?



Don't forget the 8 x .50 cal!

Check out William Wylers film "Thunderbolt" ( It's on Youtube) for excellent colour footage of the 57th FG jugs flying from Corsica which shows that exact load being used in anger.

You would NOT want to be on the recieving end of that lot!

Nige
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Posted: Friday, August 17, 2012 - 12:24 PM GMT
Thanks, Nige. Full load it is!
KrisMax
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Posted: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 - 11:27 PM GMT
The Dullcote is on, the canopy masking is off, and she's in the display cabinet.









I'm very pleased with the way the model turned out. Thanks for all the assistance I have had on this build. I know where to come when I build my next jug.

Cheers

Simon
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Posted: Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 12:22 AM GMT
Hi Everyone
Finished "Eight Nifties"
Tamiya P47D with UC Seat & Wheels
Kits World Decals - very good 9/10
Tamiya/Gunze/Alclad paints
Thanks
Darren

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Posted: Saturday, September 01, 2012 - 12:19 PM GMT
Great builds, guys!

Simon, I really love that color scheme. The candy stripes really sets it apart.

Fantastic nose art, Darren. I really like them... I mean it
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Posted: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - 10:33 AM GMT
Hi guys. Sorry for my absence lately, real life has taken it's toll on my hobby time in a BIG way. I have been promoted into a higher management position at work, and my wife and I are expecting an arrival in about 7 weeks, so I'm sure you can understand

Simon and Darren, superb work guys. Both builds look great.
Simon, I love the subtle streaking on the wings, what did you use there?
Darren, I'm with Jesper, that nose art is a winner. I'm very glad to see you give the Kitsworld decals 9/10, I have a couple of sets for my P-61's waiting in the stash. Great job with the variations on the panels as well.

Well, I'm not sure when I will get time to go further with my build, but I'm really hoping to get it done within the time frame we have left.

Cheers, D